Goodie 0 Report post Posted April 17, 2016 Consider the subject, the primary colors (subject, chos can). There are more than four (predicate, gsal ba). Because color of a white conch shell is also a primary color and it is not one with primary color white (reason, rtags). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasha 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2016 Tere is no pervasion(ma khyab). Although the reason is established (grub): color of a white conch shell is not one(gcig) with primary color white. But the color of a white conch shell and white color are mutually inclusive(don gcig). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goodie 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2016 Your reason is not established (rtags ma grub): color of a white conch shell and white color are not mutually inclusive (don gcig). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasha 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2016 Right, they are mu sum(three possibilities): 1. There is a color of a white conch shell which is a root white color; 2. There is a color of a white paper which is a root white color, but not a color of a white conch shell. 3. There is green grass - which is not a root white color, not a color of a white conch shell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasha 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2016 So, still there is no pervasion(ma khyab). Although the reason is established (grub): color of a white conch shell is not one(gcig) with primary color white. But the color of a white conch shell and white color have 3 possibilities(mu sum). Consider the subject, the primary colors (subject, chos can). There are not more than four (predicate, gsal ba). Because a color of a white conch shell is a subset of the set: white color. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goodie 0 Report post Posted April 18, 2016 Consider the subject, color of a white conch shell. It is also a set itself. Because color of a small white conch shell and color of a big white conch shell are its instances (members). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasha 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2016 Agree. Consider the subject, the color of a cloud. It is a subset of the primary white color. Because color of a white cloud is a subset of primary white color. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goodie 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2016 Reason is not established (rtag ma grub), because the subject of debate (the color of a cloud) and subject in the reason (color of a white cloud) are not the same. Maybe it can also be correctly answered in this way: There is no pervasion (ma khyab), because if instance of a set A is a subset of set B, it does not necessarily follow that whole set A is a subset of set B. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasha 0 Report post Posted April 19, 2016 One more variant could be: although the reason is established: true that a color of a white cloud is a subset of primary white color(by the way – I’m not sure what should we say in this situation: “rtag ma grub” or “grub”, because from one side it is true statement but from another side – no relations with predicate), but there is no pervasion (ma khyab) - color of a cloud is not a subset of primary white color because color of a cloud and color of a white cloud have 4 possibilities(mu shi): 1. Color of a white cloud 2. Color of a grey cloud 3. Color of a white conch shell 4. Color of a green grass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites