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Hello all,

 

I wanted to check if any of you saw the movie the cry of the snow lion, and what you think about it.

Does this wish of a free Tibet, and refusal of Chinese occupation really exists like it is expressed in the movie. Is it only present in the mind of the Tibetan living in India or exile, or is it the same for the Tibetans in Tibet?

 

Thank you.

Anton

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Tashi Delek,

Is it only present in the mind of the Tibetan living in India or exile, or is it the same for the Tibetans in Tibet?
... I don’t know for those living in Tibeth, but I’ve heard from a lot of those living in India, talking with strong belive and faith that there will come a time when they will go back to their beloved country. I hope too.

With best wishes,

tatjana

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Tashi Delek

Does this wish of a free Tibet, and refusal of Chinese occupation really exists like it is expressed in the movie. Is it only present in the mind of the Tibetan living in India or exile, or is it the same for the Tibetans in Tibet?
I haven't been to Tibet either, but the Tibetans probably wouldn't still risk their lives to escape form Tibet, if the life would be so nice. The numbers of Tibetans who manage to come accross the Himalayas are different, variying from 1000-3000, which is for me quite big number, according to the fact that they've been living in the Chinese Tibet for about half a century. Reading the newspapers and bulletins of the Tibetan government in exile about all those imprisnoments, death punishments and tortures that are still taking place also give me some idea about the "hidden" reality of the Tibet.

According to my experience from growing up in a socialist country, one disident indicates a larger number of silent symphatizers.

But there are also always a lot of people who are swiming with a stream, regardless if they agree with it or not, sometimes just trying to lean on something good in a bad situation.

 

All the best,

chödrön

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Tashi delek,

 

Indeed, most Tibetan do keep in mind that their country will be free again. This is a legitimate wish, since Tibet was an independent country, as proven (if there would be any need) by International lawyers.

 

This movie is so sad, yet so true. His Holiness explains very clearly the genocide which has taken place in His country, against His people. And the danger to wipe out a whole culture and civilization if nothing is done quickly.

 

Tibetans are "under-humans" in their own country, subject of slavery and prostitution; overwhelmed by Chinese population, arrived there to earn money, stealing the goods from the Tibetans, giving in return nuclear waste and military control of each possible space of freedom, taking all jobs and positions, living no right to practice even their religion.

 

Communist propaganda, at every corner of the country, loudly unavoidable, is affecting the youth, creating impossible dreams, encouraging treachery between them, encouraging the degenerescence of moral and religious values.

 

As explained in the movie, this is not the facts of the Chinese as a whole nation. This is coming from their government. A large amount of Chinese would like themselves to be able to practice Buddhism, follow their religious roots, live and express freely… which they cannot.

 

Blind minds would believe that Chinese Communists have “liberated” Tibet from religious slavery and feudality. This is not true. The 13th Dalaï-Lama already started the process of development and democracy, which has always been also the wish and direction of the 14th Dalaï-Lama. Tibetans would have followed the development of the World, yet keeping their culture, tradition, and religiosity.

Restoration of paintings and some statues are like “a dressing on a wooden leg”, meant more for tourism than for the culture itself. The preciosity and holiness of the objects which have been savagely destroyed and stained with excrements during the “cultural revolution” will never be recovered. The mind of the children who had to kill their own parents, monks and nuns abused and tortured, will hardly heal. And it will never heal if the World doesn’t stand by them, in their rights to recover a free life, able to learn their own language, maintain and develop their rich cultural heritage.

Surely, deluded by the propaganda, immature minds believes that Chinese Government has brought lot of good to Tibetans, allow them to go to university in Beijing, travel in China, drink Coca-cola and eat hamburgers! What a sadness…

 

The Tibetan Government does what all reasonable Government would do, using all diplomatic ways to get back crumbs of what has been stolen, in the field of freedom, culture, and religion. Furthermore, in front of the non-respect of basic Human Rights practiced by the Chinese Government, using force or even laws doesn’t help; specially when so little support is shown by Westerns countries – which look more at the financial benefit they can earn through collaboration with China than to any genuine moral line of conduct!

The political line of the Kashag is wise, following the principles of non-violence promoted tirelessly by His Holiness the Dalaï-Lama and Buddhism. Only by accepting certain political compromises the dialogue with communist will be possible. His holiness said: “I have only one demand: self-rule and genuine autonomy for all Tibetans, i.e., the Tibetan nationality in its entirety”. This is clear and leaves the door to political goals and individual hopes.

 

The wall of Berlin fell, Communist government in Russia no longer remains, there is no reason that Communism in China will not disappear at the same rate that China is developing, economically and socially. And such changes will undoubtedly affect the respect of Human Rights, and consequently the respect of Tibet and Tibetans. Everybody has to gain from such situation, Chinese and Tibetans.

 

Whatever name Tibet will have on a map, Tibetans shall recover the right to rule their own matters, allowed to learn their own language, to get jobs in their country offices, shops, and industry, maintain openly their culture and practice their religion.

 

Not only the snow lion is crying over the situation of Tibet, and Tibetan…

 

All the best, Gelong T. Shenphen

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Tashi Delek,

 

according to what I have read about the occupation of Tibet so far, I felt only a small part of all the horror that has been happening was shown in the documentary. However I believe it was enough to touch our hearts once again... though I have to admit I can only understand with a big difficulty why the majority of the world gets so restraint and silent when it comes to mentioning the question of the occupation of Tibet.

And do we really need mass music concerts (with entrance free of charge, I suppose) to make us hear that some people are really suffering on our home planet?? Is their word not enough? :(

There was very little said about the consequences of building of the railway; and of the destruction of the environment, which also has devastating outcome. But I don't think that even 10 documentaries would be enough to show the whole picture of what has been happening in Tibet... and in that case, who knows if we could even watch it in public? :?

I found the message of this documentary in the call to awaken my heart and do something to speak out about the injustice and suffering that has been inflicted on Tibetans, and to show support to Tibetans and H.H. the Dalai Lama in their call for peaceful, non-violent resolution to recovering their basic human rights.

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Tashi Delek!

 

Although a bit late - there are some things I'd like to add :) :

 

When coming to documentries - the problem is not that they aren't enough but that they cannot change directly what is hapening at the moment since the people who watch them aren't strong, willing,.. enough to do that 8/ - those who are, try their best to make changes :levitation:

Since you mentioned the concert that was shown in the movie I personally think it's a great idea to bring the news to the youngsters... I think that there should be more programs, concerts, TV commercials that promote peace, non - viollance, and freedom to all  :yinqyang:.

 

Unfortunately we are rushing in american dream which isn't a dream but more a nightmare :[ . The solution to it in my opinion is that we become aware of what we are doing and also that we stop being careless. All the solutions begin with each individual, and they start slowly...

 

As what happened to Tibet - we should at least learn from it, try to help them (prayers, signatures,...) and also try to discuss it within our own community. We can learn also that peaceful (which H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama uses) way is the best way  :prostate:....

 

My opinion of the movie is 10/10  :)) and I think that there should be more documentaries that would show us a lot of things which are happening behind closed doors and would be also great if they would also advise all the possible solutions that we could try to apply.

 

best regards,

Namgyel

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