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    dear Karuno, I have asked the Theravada group to have a look at this thread and they said they don't know who you are. Perhaps it would be best to get in contact with them to clarify the matter.
  2. Statement of His Holiness the Dalai Lama on the Forty-Seventh Anniversary of the Tibetan National Uprising Day, 10 March 2006 Today, as we commemorate the 47th anniversary of the Tibetan National Uprising Day, I extend my warm greetings to my fellow Tibetans in Tibet and in exile, as well as to our friends around the world. I also pay homage to the brave men and women of Tibet who have sacrificed their lives, and who continue to suffer, for the cause of Tibetan people. From around 1949, Tibet had witnessed a series of unprecedented events, marking the beginning of a new era in its history. As stated in the documents, the issue of Tibet was purportedly decided in 1951 through an agreement between the central and local governments, taking into consideration the special status of Tibet and the prevailing reality. Since then, I have made every possible effort to secure implementation of the policy to allow self-rule and genuine autonomy to Tibetans within the framework of the People's Republic of China, thus helping to create conditions for our people to coexist in harmony and unity as a member of the big family of the Chinese nation. In 1954-55, I visited Beijing as a representative of the Tibetan people. I took the opportunity of that visit to discuss the future of the Tibetan people with Chairman Mao Zedong and senior leaders of the party, government and military. These discussions gave me a lot of hope and reassurances. So I returned to Tibet with optimism and confidence. However, from late 1955 ultra-leftist excesses began to assail parts of Tibet. By 1959, the whole of Tibet was plunged in deep crisis. As a result, I and over a hundred thousand Tibetans were compelled to go into exile. We have been in exile for forty-six years now. Sometime in 1974, we formulated the basic principles of our Middle-Way Approach for resolving the issue of Tibet, trusting that a time must surely come when we would have the opportunity to engage in talks with the Chinese leadership. In 1979, we were able to interact directly with the leadership in Beijing. At that time, Deng Xiaoping said that "except for independence, all issues could be resolved through negotiations". Since then, I have pursued the Middle-Way Approach with consistency and sincerity. I have of course made criticisms whenever I saw unbearably sad developments in China, Tibet and the world over. But my criticisms were confined to addressing the reality of each individual case. I have never departed from my commitment to the Middle-Way Approach at any time and in any given circumstances. This is clear to the world. Unfortunately, Beijing still seems unable to overcome doubts and suspicions regarding my intention; it continues to criticise me of nursing a hidden agenda of separatism and engaging in conspiracy to achieve this. Since the re-establishment of direct contact between us and the People's Republic of China in 2002, my envoys and the Chinese counterparts were able to engage in a series of frank and extensive discussions during which they were able to explain each other's position. This kind of discussion, I hope, will help to clear the doubts and suspicions of the People's Republic of China so that we can move on to settle the differences in our views and positions, and thereby find a mutually-acceptable solution to the issue of Tibet. More particularly, in the fifth round of talks held a few weeks ago, the two sides were able to clearly identify the areas of major differences and the reasons thereof. They were also able to get a sense of the conditions necessary for resolving the differences. In addition, my envoys reiterated my wish to visit China on a pilgrimage. As a country with a long history of Buddhism, China has many sacred pilgrim sites. As well as visiting the pilgrim sites, I hope to be able to see for myself the changes and developments in the People's Republic of China. Over the past decades, China has seen spectacular economic and social development. This is commendable. The Tibetan areas have likewise seen some infrastructural development, which I have always considered positive. Looking back at the past five decades of China's history, one sees that the country saw a great many movements based on the principles of Marxism-Leninism. That was during Mao's era. Then Deng Xiaoping, through seeking truth from facts, introduced socialist market economy and brought huge economic progress. Following this, based on his theory of the "Three Represents", Jiang Zemin expanded the scope of the Communist Party of China to include not just the peasants and workers, but also three other elements, namely the advanced productive forces, the progressive course of China's advanced culture, and the fundamental interests of the majority. Today, President Hu Jintao's theory of "Three Harmonies" envisages peaceful coexistence and harmony within China, as well as with her neighbours and the international community. All these initiatives were undertaken in accordance with the changing times. As a result, the transition of political power and the development of the cou ntry have continued unabated. And today China is emerging as one of the major powers in the world, which she deserves considering her long history and huge population. However, the fundamental issue that must be addressed is that in tandem with the political power and economic development, China must also follow the modern trend in terms of developing a more open society, free press and policy transparency. This, as every sensible person can see, is the foundation of genuine peace, harmony and stability. Tibetans-as one of the larger groups of China's 55 minority nationalities-are distinct in terms of their land, history, language, culture, religion, customs and traditions. This distinctiveness is not only clear to the world, but was also recognised by a number of senior Chinese leaders in the past. I have only one demand: self-rule and genuine autonomy for all Tibetans, i.e., the Tibetan nationality in its entirety. This demand is in keeping with the provisions of the Chinese constitution, which means it can be met. It is a legitimate, just and reasonable demand that reflects the aspirations of Tibetans, both in and outside Tibet. This demand is based on the logic of seeing future as more important than the past; it is based on the ground realities of the present and the interests of the future. The long history of the past does not lend itself to a simple black and white interpretation. As such, it is not easy to derive a solution from the past history. This being the case, I have stated time and again that I do not wish to seek Tibet's separation from China, but that I will seek its future within the framework of the Chinese constitution. Anyone who has heard this statement would realise, unless his or her view of reality is clouded by suspicion, that my demand for genuine self-rule does not amount to a demand for separation. The convergence of this fact with a gradual progress in freedom, openness and media will create conditions, I hope, for resolving Sino-Tibetan problem through negotiations. Therefore, I am making every effort to perpetuate the present contacts and thus create a conducive atmosphere. The Kashag of the Central Tibetan Administration has made a number of appeals to Tibetans and our international supporters to work toward the creation of a conducive environment for negotiations. Today, I would like to emphasise that we leave no stone unturned to help the present process of dialogue for the resolution of the Sino-Tibetan problem. I urge all Tibetans to take note of this on the basis of the Kashag's appeal. I make the same request to Tibet supporters and those sympathetic to the Tibetan people. By the same token, I would like to tell the People's Republic of China that if it sees benefit in sincerely pursuing dialogue through the present contact, it must make clear gesture to this effect. I urge the Chinese leadership to give a serious thought to this. A positive atmosphere cannot be created by one side alone. As an ancient Tibetan saying goes, one hand is not enough to create the sound of a clap. Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to express my appreciation and gratitude to the international community for their consistent support to us. I would also like to express once again the Tibetan people's appreciation and immense gratitude to the people and the Government of India for their unwavering and unparalleled generosity and support to us. With my thoughts on the situation and feelings of the Tibetans inside Tibet, I pray for all of them. I also pray for the wellbeing of all sentient beings. The Dalai Lama March 10, 2006
  3. The one I posted above felt like that. Of course it is a matter of perception. I am sure if I would to say that Lama Shephen is just some guy who made up his lineage, you would not find it amusing? (please, this is just an example, ok? ) or this: or this: I guess these kinds of things do not seem very kind and respectful. Though perhaps based on misunderstanding, which I thought was cleared, but judging on this thread it was not. Next time there will be tons of smilies next to our emails so that nobody can mistake anything for what it is not.
  4. Well, this is not how I would describe respect for other traditions: I there(bis) We can write whatever on a web site... This isn't an ancient tradition. It has been made up by a man named Chogyam Trumpa. He wasn't monk, and as far as one can read widely on the net his behaviour wasn't very... hum... ethical. Well, at least there is a certain logic with the steaptease organize by his group in your country Very Happy Will there be also lot of alcohol serverd in memory of the creator of Shambala? Wink Alan
  5. Actually, he did it 2 days after the thread started and after he spread lies about our lineage on your forum. I was wondering if you would bring that up. Quite predictable. I verified my information to the best of my ability and it was confirmed at that time. I never spread that publicly, as I'm sure you are aware. And I apologized to you directly for having the wrong information. Your comment is kinda funny though, as this whole thing is about you (forum members) perceiving a "straw in the eye of the others" and launching into an attack immediately. And of course, it is the karma of all of us, what else??
  6. and here is the blog entry in question: Now, if anyone takes this as an official and serious statement, they are surely beyond help. :CD
  7. Dear Wangmo, I really have no wish to argue further about this. The fact of the matter is that of all the people that received that message, only Dharmaling members found it offensive and launched an attack on us (and the whole organization ) immediately without even bothering to check with us what is going on. If something was not clear, it would be easy just to email and check, no? If there were any bad manners, this certainly counts among them. Lots of other people appreciated the joke, and have let us know so as well. And a few people asked about it and we explained it. No problem, and it introduced some lightness into the whole thing. As I said, I am sorry that this have stirred up so much negativity among you. I do trust that being practitioners and having a good teacher, you will be able to practice with it (if you want to), and I will do so as well for things that are arising in me. That is the best we can do, it seems. I have no wish to convert you to my views, or even to be able to see things from our point of view, as even this has proved fruitless countless times in the past. I just state how things were and seem from our point of view. You are free to do with this as you want.
  8. Also interesting with this whole striptease thing is that you never bothered to check what is going on, but just jumped to conclusions and immediately started to attack and disparage others. Wouldn't it be better to check that you understand correctly?
  9. Dear Alan, I am sorry you have no sense of humour, what else can I say? And as before, you are not even bothering to check for facts, but just making assumptions - the site is NOT slovene site of Shambhala, it is a PERSONAL website. The official site is at www.shambhala.si. And if you are interested, the striptease went really well, we were waiting for you to show up, but unfortunately you missed it! Isn't all Buddhist practice actually one of stripping, being naked in the world, exposed to everything and everyone without any reservations and holding back? ;-) And teasing our neurosis to the surface? Momo the Tiger was especially daring in his nakedness I have to say! ;-) :CD Alan, why is it so hard for you accept that sense of humour is an essential part of the path? And how is your disparaging and throwing doubt on other lineages part of your practice and helping others in any way? All I see is someone who must be suffering deeply to wish others harm in such a way. Didn't the president of Shambhala Europe himself answer your questions satisfactorily?
  10. I am sorry this has caused such confusion. At the same time, it can be a clear mirror of one's mind as well, don't you think? ;-) Timing is unfortunate yes, we were trying to see if we can somehow manage it, so that it would work out, but we are constrained by the time of our international phone conference (all shambhala centers connect together to hear live address of the Sakyong) We do wish you all a very happy celebration, and may you enjoy yourself very much for your own benefit and those of many others!
  11. You know it almost seems absurd to have to answer to these kinds of things, but don't you people have any sense of humour? Can't you tell what is a joke and what is not? It's a celebration, people. Lots of practice, lots of joy, and lots of humour. Lighten up, please? Regards, Robert Shambhala group Ljubljana
  12. ahh, I was wondering when Matjaz will be attacked again here... He somehow seems to have an interesting karmic connection with people here. So far, some of the posts have shown real buddhist openness to different views, gentleness and wisdom. ;-) I find his views interesting, especially since I know they are coming from someone who has been working a lot for tibet in the last 10 years. And I mean a LOT. I teased him quite a lot, when I heard him talk about chinese in that way. But when I thought deeper about it, I realized how much of a prejudice I had, how I just presupposed the worst and included all chinese along with what their government is doing. Matjaz is challenging that and it's very very interesting to think about it. And I feel his views are completely in tune with HHDL's, he gave up independece for Tibet a long time ago (and PLEASE, how dare you question or make believe doubt his words by saying it's a "political" statement? Sheesh! ) He always talks about his friendship with the Chinese people and so on. And I was also surprised to hear how much the chinese are embracing tibetan buddhism, this was completely new to me. and a very interesting development too, and it might prove to be quite important in the future. At the end, he's living there now, and we're not. He spends a lot of time with Tibetans, and is helping them in many ways and they seem to have almost adopted him as well. He's done lots of retreat last year, and he finished his ngondro as well. Anyone who tried doing that knows how difficult that is. I have the highest regards for anyone who goes through that ordeal. Wangmo, I don't know how much practice you've done, or if you've done any ngondro practices at all. the statement: " seems to reflect a strange state of mind regarding the prostrations practice:" seems to point that you haven't. if you would, you would know that EVERYTHING and MORE arises during prostrations. They are designed to bring up the worst kleshas out, the worst garbage that you can find, and just leave it out in the open. And you just work with whatever arises - passion,desire, frustration, anger,... sometimes you curse the buddhas, scream at them, sometimes you cry out of longing and devotion for whole sessions. it doesn't really matter. any state of mind is workable and indeed sacred. and we can celebrate all that we are, including our neuroses. that is the view and the practice. I absolutely love the poem, I have to say, it is great!! Much better in Slovene though. I think Matjaz has one very important quality of a true practitioner - honesty, and being without deception. To conquer spiritual materialism, I think this is probably what is needed most. He might have other faults, as we do all, but he's not afraid to be open about who he is. this is a quality I cherish very much, and makes me trust him much more than those who are trying to be "religious", trying to live up to some kind of ideal and just end up turning themselves into people noone wants to be around, because they're so serious and uptight. Humor is one of most important parts of the path, seeing things with lightness and spaciousness, and so be able to celebrate this tremendous feast. Regards, Robert == Clarity's blog Shambhala Slovenia
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