smokey 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2009 Lhag-thong (Tibetan, to see more) or transcendent insight is beyond conceptualised thoughts. It is still a thought at a subtle single pointed level engaged at the sametime in investigative manner. One can gain knowledge and better understanding of the reality during such meditation. Well, one could gain extremely subtle pliancy of mind-body level that would have its own sensational impact but are supposed to be truly tranquil and balanced. Lhag-thong is a high level practice and it cannot be achieved with meditation alone, however it is achieved in mediation. It requires years of study under a highly qualified teacher with much reading and practice to achieve such an insight. Lhag-thong literally means to see "more", to see "beyond", "extraordinary", "highest", so, not to see just what a mass of mankind sees which live in ignorance, but to see beyond the limits which restrain a vision of developed minds, to see "with a third eye of Knowledge", which followers of tantric practices center on the forehead of their symbolic gods. Like any other skills, Lhag-thong can be nurtured and improved. Based on Lhag-Thong one can contemplate NirvÄÂṇa, ParinirvÄÂṇa, what is between existence and non-existence, Ã…šÃ…«nyatÄÂ, PratÄ«tyasamutpÄÂda, law which congregates causes and effects, understanding Karma and VipÄÂka etc. Ultimately Lhag-thong is a practice for realising Ã…šÃ…«nyatÄ which creates a true enlightenment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caveman 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 Lhag-thong (Tibetan, to see more) or transcendent insight is beyond conceptualised thoughts. It is still a thought at a subtle single pointed level engaged at the sametime in investigative manner.One can gain knowledge and better understanding of the reality during such meditation. Well, one could gain extremely subtle pliancy of mind-body level that would have its own sensational impact but are supposed to be truly tranquil and balanced. Lhag-thong is a high level practice and it cannot be achieved with meditation alone, however it is achieved in mediation. It requires years of study under a highly qualified teacher with much reading and practice to achieve such an insight. Lhag-thong literally means to see "more", to see "beyond", "extraordinary", "highest", so, not to see just what a mass of mankind sees which live in ignorance, but to see beyond the limits which restrain a vision of developed minds, to see "with a third eye of Knowledge", which followers of tantric practices center on the forehead of their symbolic gods. Like any other skills, Lhag-thong can be nurtured and improved. Based on Lhag-Thong one can contemplate NirvÄÂṇa, ParinirvÄÂṇa, what is between existence and non-existence, Ã…šÃ…«nyatÄÂ, PratÄ«tyasamutpÄÂda, law which congregates causes and effects, understanding Karma and VipÄÂka etc. Ultimately Lhag-thong is a practice for realising Ã…šÃ…«nyatÄ which creates a true enlightenment. You taste maha sunyata, maha maya, milam chempo. You see the dream that we are all living in and we don't even know it. We awaken within the dream and if we are truly lucky we learn to dance within it. The practice of Buddhism is an illusion which replaces other illusions. For most sentient beings it is a necessary illusion. But ultimately it is just another illusion. If you know your practice is an illusion, you will have a great practice, a great dream life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael John Smith 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2009 This ia all very interesting ! ? BUT I think motivation is very important in Buddhism - what do you want to get out of your practice. In Mahayana Buddhism generating Bodhichitta, or Buddhist compassion to others as well as the self, is the primary motivation for seeking enlightenment. As far as I feel, wisdom without compassion seems a little out-of-balance. I need the wisdom to develop the special means to help people - to realise my compassion. I urge you to please look into your motivation for gaining the wisdom mind, third eye or whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wangmo 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2009 Ultimately Lhag-thong is a practice for realising Ã…šÃ…«nyatÄ which creates a true enlightenment. Sorry, there seems to be a misunderstanding - realising Shunyata or Emptiness is not equal with Enlightenment. It means the liberation from samsara, and reaching Nirvana, yes, and entering the first of the ten Bhumis which precede Enlightenment. From there on, one is an Arya Bodhisattva, liberated from samsara and not creating new karma, but still not a Buddha. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smokey 0 Report post Posted July 5, 2009 Sorry, there seems to be a misunderstanding - realising Shunyata or Emptiness is not equal with Enlightenment. It means the liberation from samsara, and reaching Nirvana, yes, and entering the first of the ten Bhumis which precede Enlightenment. From there on, one is an Arya Bodhisattva, liberated from samsara and not creating new karma, but still not a Buddha. Thank you for correcting me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites